Varik Keldun
Ancient
Mallius Odium
Ashen_Ring
Players Playing Bloodbath Demo
Immemorial
Cat Adopter
Ageless
Malleus Monday
OG 2020
Grim Scribe
Prophet
Vampire Scholar
Harbinger
so I figured it was time to delve into the Necroliberatas again - to start brainstorming over what's written.
everything that is BOLD is from the Necroliberatas
everything else is just my thoughts / ideas and may or may not be true
i am only going to post the full poem because it is short for the rest I will take small quotes - read the Necroliberatas for all the stories.
starting with "The Great Houses"
The nine great houses and their gods fraternal (we know there will be 9 playable houses, Fraternal could be family(actually related) or treated like family (think mafia))
Six elder gods usher in war eternal (unknown if more than 6 elder gods, maybe an elder demon for demonhaus instead? or possibly some houses share gods)
The runes of power allow ascension (collecting a certain amount or runes might make you more (ascend in strength like a god) or (ascend to previously unreachable places)
The octahedron promotes dissension (octahedron would be an 8 sided dice - dissension would be a disagreement between people)
The all powerful centre is unspoken (something more powerful than the elder gods perhaps in the center of the octahedron)
Understand the cosmos to be awoken (hidden messages or possibly directions / clues to runes of power or how to activate them - moon doors would be a good example)
Fragments speaks of the trianary archetype system.
One who embraces the three deaths never truly dies, but draws upon the pools of Body, Spirit, and Essence as energy
It also speaks of other houses with their own energies.
It is said by some that the false houses of men and giants and angels wield their own three energies
In the notes we get a good chunk of information.
His perception of Truth is limited by his perspective. A Higher Truth is rumored to be spoken of in the Book of the Obsidian Octahedron, most copies of which were denounced as heresy and burned at the Grim Council of Anu Maht...before the start of Deadhaus
in the Grim Council we get reaffirmation on the purge.
...sought to purge the Necroliberatas of all heresy...would glorify only death.
a confrontation about truths.
...central point of debate being whether three principles (Material, Magickal, and Essential) ruled over all races, or whether a larger Octahedron of forces might govern over a multiverse.
a lot was destroyed but some fragments still remained with rumors about gaining more power.
Today, only fragments of the heretical gospels have survived...collect enough of these fragments, they would re-assemble themselves into powerful scrolls that would grant the power of a Lich.
in the Lamentations we see Ngaztak write about.
...the physical, the magickal, and the essential are a worthy foundation to build upon, but this is not the path I exhort...
lies are like ogres... who are like onions... full of layers....
Hear me. We are in a time where everyone lies. Layer upon layer of deception...We will cut through the lies and show them the way.
All four of these passages are intertwined together and it got me thinking of an 8 sided dice and how things may or may not work but due to the fact that each side of a D8 shares a side with another part i would imagine that there would be three houses that share one side each.
something like this... (this is the right idea but the wrong location for connection points which leads to the proper one below)
which in turn would lead me to a conclusion that there will be 12 different archetypes based off of 8 houses.
while making the new image i also made this one which could also be another way of looking at - where each haus would share 2 archetypes rather than one.
as for the 9th house I cannot say where it would fit unless it is the unspoken center which may be able to pull from any archetype? - but this does not make 100% sense to me if it is a higher plane of sorts.
(EDIT) 9th haus would make more sense in the center pulling from the top(physical) and bottom(F) points and then from one of the center 4 bases(magic / essential / D / E) - with this you could make 12 classes using the middle grounds between physical and whatever F would be along the chosen center skill.
story wise I sense that we are going to see some fighting to learn of the higher truths - seeking out the "heratical lore" destroyed by the grim council before Ngaztak arrived. As Ngaztak states - "cutting through the lies." could be for or against the grim council or the heretics (or both) to learn more about the Book of the Obsidian Octahedron.
everything that is BOLD is from the Necroliberatas
everything else is just my thoughts / ideas and may or may not be true
i am only going to post the full poem because it is short for the rest I will take small quotes - read the Necroliberatas for all the stories.
starting with "The Great Houses"
The nine great houses and their gods fraternal (we know there will be 9 playable houses, Fraternal could be family(actually related) or treated like family (think mafia))
Six elder gods usher in war eternal (unknown if more than 6 elder gods, maybe an elder demon for demonhaus instead? or possibly some houses share gods)
The runes of power allow ascension (collecting a certain amount or runes might make you more (ascend in strength like a god) or (ascend to previously unreachable places)
The octahedron promotes dissension (octahedron would be an 8 sided dice - dissension would be a disagreement between people)
The all powerful centre is unspoken (something more powerful than the elder gods perhaps in the center of the octahedron)
Understand the cosmos to be awoken (hidden messages or possibly directions / clues to runes of power or how to activate them - moon doors would be a good example)
Fragments speaks of the trianary archetype system.
One who embraces the three deaths never truly dies, but draws upon the pools of Body, Spirit, and Essence as energy
It also speaks of other houses with their own energies.
It is said by some that the false houses of men and giants and angels wield their own three energies
In the notes we get a good chunk of information.
His perception of Truth is limited by his perspective. A Higher Truth is rumored to be spoken of in the Book of the Obsidian Octahedron, most copies of which were denounced as heresy and burned at the Grim Council of Anu Maht...before the start of Deadhaus
in the Grim Council we get reaffirmation on the purge.
...sought to purge the Necroliberatas of all heresy...would glorify only death.
a confrontation about truths.
...central point of debate being whether three principles (Material, Magickal, and Essential) ruled over all races, or whether a larger Octahedron of forces might govern over a multiverse.
a lot was destroyed but some fragments still remained with rumors about gaining more power.
Today, only fragments of the heretical gospels have survived...collect enough of these fragments, they would re-assemble themselves into powerful scrolls that would grant the power of a Lich.
in the Lamentations we see Ngaztak write about.
...the physical, the magickal, and the essential are a worthy foundation to build upon, but this is not the path I exhort...
lies are like ogres... who are like onions... full of layers....
Hear me. We are in a time where everyone lies. Layer upon layer of deception...We will cut through the lies and show them the way.
All four of these passages are intertwined together and it got me thinking of an 8 sided dice and how things may or may not work but due to the fact that each side of a D8 shares a side with another part i would imagine that there would be three houses that share one side each.
something like this... (this is the right idea but the wrong location for connection points which leads to the proper one below)
which in turn would lead me to a conclusion that there will be 12 different archetypes based off of 8 houses.
while making the new image i also made this one which could also be another way of looking at - where each haus would share 2 archetypes rather than one.
as for the 9th house I cannot say where it would fit unless it is the unspoken center which may be able to pull from any archetype? - but this does not make 100% sense to me if it is a higher plane of sorts.
(EDIT) 9th haus would make more sense in the center pulling from the top(physical) and bottom(F) points and then from one of the center 4 bases(magic / essential / D / E) - with this you could make 12 classes using the middle grounds between physical and whatever F would be along the chosen center skill.
story wise I sense that we are going to see some fighting to learn of the higher truths - seeking out the "heratical lore" destroyed by the grim council before Ngaztak arrived. As Ngaztak states - "cutting through the lies." could be for or against the grim council or the heretics (or both) to learn more about the Book of the Obsidian Octahedron.
Last edited: